Tuesday, February 15, 2011

Moultonboro Police Department given okay to organize a collective bargaining unit

According to an article in today's Laconia Daily Sun , the N.H. Public Employees Relations Labor Board has given the Moultonboro Police Department the okay to be organized by the New England Police Benevolent Association, an AFL-CIO affiliate. The bargaining unit will comprise 14 people and includes Corporals and Sergeant. The bargaining unit's president is Corporal  Jason Boucher. 
Hey Selectmen Crawford: I thought this only happens in SB2 towns? Another myth bites the dust. 

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

Just great....and will the current BOS be the group to negotiate contracts with this proposed union? If so, sell the town, as the BOS is grossly incompetent and asleep. They cannot handle ANY issue that is complicated. Take for example Vision Appraisal last year. Not ONE question from the BOS over weeks and weeks of discussions. Why? Because the topic was way over their head and some even admitted to it. Has the BOS hired competent labor counsel to advise them as to what they can say to possibly negate getting a union, or is this yet another behind the scenes item that is now sprung on everyone? Did the BOS ever develop a counter action plan within the constraints of the laws? Time to REDUCE the Police force. This is what you get with BIG government...UNIONS, who negotiate and WIN benefits that are not sustainable because the unions are well organized and the town people who are involved are naive and just plain folks who never get into this stuff. Or will it be Carter....god save us! If we get one union, how soon before Highway Dept., town hall, etc. are organized? Moultonborough will NEVER be the same.....and you can thank the current administration for it all.

Anonymous said...

Never heard about this at ANY town meeting or Carter's weekly notes. Guess all town info must be sent through the press first so we are the second ones to know.

Anonymous said...

Wonder if our superb BOS will have a comment at their meeting as to how this will be so beneficial to the town and the Police. Would be interested in their thoughts and what they have been doing....

Suzie in Kona said...

Let's ask the new BoS candidates what they think? What is their expertise to handle it.

Anonymous said...

From the very first second of negotiations should he Union go forward, we had better hire the VERY BEST Legal Counsel and maybe even a professiional contract negotiator to represent the town in negotiations, with the BOS as back-ups to set the goals, etc.. This Legal Counsel must have extensive specific experience on municipal labor contracts and negotiations. If we do not hire externally to do the tough work, we will be screwed for ever. It may cost up front bucks, but the long term savings will be enormous, especially if when there most likely will be language on benefits, work rules, overtime, shift preference, manning, insurance, arbitration, grievance procedures, etc. Maybe we should hire only part time police...all non benefitted positions. Would save a ton of money. JMHO... But we better be prepared to fund and mount the best negotiation position right out of the box...as the initial contract is EXTREMELY important.

Anonymous said...

If our town's population roughly doubles in the summer months, or even for 6 months a year, why do we need a full police staff of full-time officers? Couldn't we do with half the force in the winter months and add some part-timers (no benefits) during the really peak summer/holiday months? Perhaps some moon-lighters from other towns, or cadets in training.

Anonymous said...

Wonder where, if at all, this potential for a police union was discussed on the town side? Couldn't have been a surprise in the dark..or could it? Maybe I missed it in some minutes. I did not remember seeing it in any of Carter's weekly notes as well, but I could have missed it. Was it in BOS Non-public session and if it was, does this qualify under the RSA's for non-public meeting coverage? Just wondering where all this has been discussed......there could be another story here. Wonder what Corporal Boucher would say the reason(s) he has taken this organizing step? Hmmmmmmm.....

Moultonboro Blogger said...

I posted this last June ( http://moultonborospeaks.blogspot.com/2010/06/unions-coming-to-town-of-moultonboro.html)

"Per Carter's weekly report dated 6/21/2010:

"I worked with Counsel on the unionization issue crafting our response to be filed this week."

Boot Hill said...

Claude Raines would turn over in his grave if he ever heard this.

"I'm Shocked"
"Shocked"

Oh wait, Claude Raines IS buried right here in Moultonborough!

Tired of the whiners said...

Two things (oops three things):
(1)The NH House passed a Right to Work bill by a very large majority today. That means with the Senate's support and some pressue on the Guv, that one need not cave into joining a union to hold a job in any unionized entity. (2) The Guv seems to have slipped a tad to the right. Also today he announced he is planning on eliminating 1,100 'gubment' jobs. This is the first sign that government workers will finally be feeling the effects of the great recession. While I feel sorry for those about to be "given the chance for better job opportunities", I see this as a revalation that the economy has finaly come to the government who gave us the recession to begin with. (3) If a police force who has twice the number of personel that we need in a town of 5000 (look up the facts folks.. we are overloaded) really feels they are so downtrodden they need a UNION to protect their rights.... one word: PRIVATIZE "The state does not own the right to enforce the law, it administers this right on behalf of the people.Therefore, there is no reason in principle why private individuals should not have law enforcement duties delegated to them, as long as they are responsible to the same system of law under which the state operates." (Nicholas Elliott--The Freeman)
Privatization of law enforcement is becoming a popular option for bloated, unionized and inefficient police departments.

Anonymous said...

To tired of the whiners said... You said look up the facts and I did. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics - the rule of thumb for police personnel staffing is 2.5 Full-time officers per 1,000 population served. A town with a population of just 5,000 = 12.5 FT officers. This of course does not take into account part-time resident influx - which there is, even in the winter - or the pass through population on a daily basis - and don't forget those not on the voter rolls.

Secondly, this union formation isn't about money. It about fair labor practices. For too long the BOS and the Town Administrators of this town have stepped on the employees of this town, and should not be taken as a shot at the Chief, because its not. This has been simmering for about 10 years.

More Lies said...

See . . . . SB2 caused all of this.
Oh, wait, we don't have SB2 in Moultonborough do we.

Well, Karol, Laurie, et. al. must be wrong again. Or were they fibbing again as usual?

Anonymous said...

More Lies, don't forget that our Town Moderator's coment about S.B. 2,"don't vote in S.B. 2 because you will bring in the unions".Another town official caught in a lie and a scare tactic.S.B. 2 must be great for this town for all the boards that spend money do not want it.They know this town would have more people voteing on the budgets and vote them down.VOTE IN SB 2 on both school and town ballots.Lower Taxes!!!!!!!!!

Exercise Your Right to Vote said...

There's more to SB2 than lowering taxes. There's not much difference in spending between SB2 towns and those that have town meeting.

What SB2 allows that town meeting does not is more voter participation. It also allows for absentee ballots. So if you're one of the 96% of registered voter's that don't attend town meeting than SB2 is for you.

SB2 allows you to vote on all the Warrant Articles in the privacy of a voting booth at your convenience.

Don't let the small minority who attend town meeting make all the decisions for you. Exercise your right on March 8th and vote yes for SB2.