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Saturday, June 14, 2014

Can Softball and Lacrosse Co-exist?

Maybe not here in Moultonboro. Quite a crowd showed up at the School Board meeting last Tuesday on both sides of the issue. A cooperative lacrosse team is being proposed between Moultonboro and Interlakes  much like the football team. I have been told that about $9,000 has been raised by supporters of lacrosse.
Softball participation has been on the decline and the worry seems to be that if another sport is added, there will be less participants available for softball and perhaps not enough to field some teams.
I wasn't there during that part of the meeting and the video isn't quite up yet on the Town website, but  judging by the standing room only size of the crowd for the brief time I was there, it seems to be a hot button issue.
As I understand it, the School Board did not  make a decision as to whether to approve the cooperative lacrosse venture with Interlakes.
Hard to say where this will end up, but I hope to hear more from you about where it should end up. Lacrosse? Softball? Can we support both?


26 comments:

Terence C. Jatko said...

Interesting, isn't it. People turn out in droves because of some sports program, but could not care less about the dismal return on investment delivered by our bloated, top-heavy school system, or outright indoctrination, dumbing-down,and data mining by the Feds in the form of Common Core.

Why Are They There ?? said...

Any mention of the reason the kids go to school? We are paying for a first rate education for our Moultonboro children, and getting third class results. How shortsighted and nieave some parents are, insisting little Johnny can play any sport he wishes, at the publics expense, while the primary reason for the public expense is ignored.
It would be in the kids best intrest to call a hiatus on new sports until our new Superintendent has made progress with the achedemic problem. It's only fair..for the kids.

Kick the Ball - Flip Burgers... said...

We have to see where our school superintendent weighs in on this...She made it quite clear that she believes on a core of sports available for students, but that academics should take priority.

Join Them... said...

Time to look at combining both high schools....if it makes sense for sports, it would bring many improvements on the academic side. It would still be a small school, withpprox 600 students, but would be able to offer a wider course list, better taylored to kids needs. Some data: 2013 and 14 NECAP math and reading:

Moultonboro, ranked 15 out of 86 N H schools, 226 students, 9.6 students per teacher. Up 11 in ranking over last year

Inter-lakes, ranked 21 out of 86 N H schools, 367 students, 12.9 students per teacher, up 23 in ranking over last year.
With a focus on what's best for the students, letting them swim in a bigger pond has a lot to offer.

Anonymous said...

'Nieave'? Perfect, just perfect that this word's inventor would be stressing kids getting a top shelf education. The mismanagement of this town's P&L remains astounding, only surpassed by the segment of naive citizens lacking vision.

Plush It Out.. said...

Anon at 10:16. What do you stand for, besides increased use of spellcheck??

Alphabet Soup said...

Hmmm, possibly the reason students are no longer taught cursive handwriting? They'd need to learn how to spell without the aid of IPads and spellcheck.

Anonymous said...

I am not Anon 10:16, but please let me say that if you are going to criticize the system of education, you had better know how to spell, or you look pretty silly, if not worse. Enough said on this. Next?

Alphabet Soup said...

Hmmm, possibly the reason students are no longer taught cursive handwriting? They'd need to learn how to spell without the aid of IPads and spellcheck.

Anonymous said...

This comment doesn't belong anywhere here, but HAPPY FATHER'S DAY to all fathers!

Anonymous said...

Well,I'll tell you what I stand for...I stand for folks understanding the importance of tax dollars being spent wisely on priorities. I dare to stand for rewarding hardworking ,competent teachers/administrators and terminating ineffective, incompetent ones. I favor supporting a well-rounded educational experience for kids that include expanded music, arts and sports programs. Subsidizing new offices, auditoriums, gymnasiums, sidewalks that aren't absolutely necessary don't make my priority list. The physical plant expansion wishlist ignores apparent shrinking student population, ignores our aging citizenry and is detached from our community's current and future fiscal reality. Certain department heads apparently limit planning analysis to the minimum amount required to convince a couple of deciders and continue to get what they want! Time and territory management rather than another gymnasium might be a place to start. For example, some folks actually wanted sidewalks because a handful of kids who were being transported by subsidized afternoon jitney couldn't stop for snacks. I stand for packing them a snack before school, or letting the bus make a quick snack stop and use a fraction of the savings to expand educational and sports programs. I stand for paying my bills, my taxes, over $500K for kids' college tuition, plus over six figures to educational charities. I don't stand for shortsheeting kids, petty self-interest and an absence of common sense. What do you stand for?

D. Sailor said...

Quit the spelling criticism. Please.
Some of us imbibe adult spirits while posting here. And our fingers don't do exactly what our minds dictate.
So please land on the point of any posting instead of the spelling.
Try to see the forest through the trees and not the twigs right in front of you.
Cheers !

BG Guy said...

Huh?
Lacrosse versus softball?

And this is what gets people out to school board meetings?

What a sad state of affairs we have here at Moultonborough Schools.

How about physical education for all kids in every grade? Huh? What about that?

One third of all US children are diagnosed as obese. After school sports for the athletic kids is not the answer. Not for the fat kids.

Ah. I hear some of you thinking it is the parents responsibility and not the schools for fat kids. Hmm.

Well, the fact remains that we got fat kids. And all of us should strive to do something about this.

How about you parents and other citizens demanding physical education in all grades. For all kids.

How about it?

Anonymous said...

Impressive responses to 'what I believe in'. To the honest 'blog while drinking' contributor, thanks for the insight because without it one could presume a illiterate poster was bemoaning the absence of top shelf education. As for the PE blogger, frankly assumed that PE is a part of curriculum in every grade? If I'm mistaken, no wonder we are in the position we're in. School contracts that serve high caloric meals, folks that serve their kids the same, absence of exercise, absence of discipline, fast food, sugar laden drinks???mix well, get rudderless, mentor less kids struggling with obesity...apparently America has taken the lead in this category, damn shame.

Jean Poole said...

Mandatory phys. ed. is a very good suggestion.
Let the parents of after school sports pay for all. Why should all of us pay for after school sports. This is an option. Let the optional parents pay for all.
I am willing to pay for during school physical education to help alleviate obesity in our youth.
If we don't do something about youth obesity then we all pay with higher medical insurance premiums.
Why not attempt to nip this in the bud with mandatory physical education for all kids every day?

Anonymous said...

The kids at the Central School take "brain breaks" throughout the day in the multi-purpose room (3rd gym)

The kids run around the gym to burn up some of their excess energy. "Brain breaks" are also suppose to help the kids focus better when they return to the class room.

Serge Bubka said...

Don't forget MA also offers track and field as a spring sport so its not just softball vs lacrosse.


Anonymous said...

Lacrosse would take kids away from track and field, too. We invested in the track and baseball/softball fields. Let’s use them. We can’t be everything to every child.

Anthony Afterwit said...

Eighteen comments and only two addressed the issue. All the others were just a bunch of bickering. Any idea how our town looks from the outside? We are the laughing stock of the lakes region. It is not just the school numbers that are declining, it is the entire town, and it is because of the overwhelming lack of cooperation and foresight by the people, along with the backwards image we portray. Who in their right mind would move to stale Moultonborough when flourishing Meredith is a stones throw away? How many of you know people who have moved away recently? We have a low tax rate, but that is only a piece of the pie, and most average people are willing to pay a little more in taxes for a sense of community, a thriving downtown, support of education, leadership with open minds, good services, and God forbid, extra-curricular choices such as Lacrosse for their children. How about this new slogan for our town, "2020 in 2020?" I bet we can get our population down to 2020 by 2020 if we continue all this negativity. We could also use "1960 by 2020," because it seems like the leadership in the town and school makes their decisions based on the way things used to be. Keep up the good work people, you're killing your community. Oh, and for the record, I SUPPORT LACROSSE.

Anonymous said...

Anthony, not to be mean or anything, BUT.....do you realize how NEGATIVE your comments are? Just for the record, there are countless people who volunteer a great deal of their time to serve on town boards and committees. They do this in order to make life here better. Their efforts seldom work 100%, but the effort is there. We need more qualified people to serve on these boards, and fewer naysayers who do nothing but *****... let's say gripe. End of sermon.

Anonymous said...

Anthony Afterwit and Anonymous at 11:48, I don't think the facts bear out your assertions. Would you have us believe that Moultonborough doesn't support the school system when the student to teacher ratio here is lower than that of Meredith and MA outperforms IL? I won't even go into per student spending. It seems that the interested Merdith players have raised money for equipment but do not have a place to play as Moultonborough is to provide the field. Downtown Moultonborough is not a destination, tourist or resident, because it is not on the water. Nothing will ever change that attribute. If a scatter chart of the two towns populations reflecting the distance from the downtowns were available, I think you would see that the majority of Meredith's population lives within a mile or two of it while Moultonborugh's is scattered over its 70+ square miles. No amount of money spent on the village will change the location of the village to waterfront or where the residents live. Does the fact that Meredith does not have a field for lacrosse mean that Meredith is a horrible community? I don't think so. Should Moultonborough aspire to become a city if the majority of the people that show up at the town meeting like the vitality of a city opposed to the sedate, rural character of Moultonborough?

Fiona Campbell said...

Anthony, your comments sound like you're ashamed of Moultonborough. Let's deal with reality as opposed to dreaming about fantasies. Moultonborough will never become like Meredith no matter how many new buildings you build or sports programs you provide. Meredith has some givens we don't. The town of Meredith sits on the bay, we don't. It has good highway access, we don't. It has public sewer and water, we don't.

Stop trying to compare us to something we are not and will never become. Moultonborough mainly attracts retired people. folks who don't need easy highway access to get to a job everyday. Who don't mind driving a few extra miles for shopping, and have the time and appreciate the areas beautiful lake and mountains.

You see Anthony, it takes more than "support of education, leadership with open minds, good services, a good school, extra-curricular choices such as lacrosse." In order for Moultonborough to become the thriving, modern metropolis you envision, it would need some amenities and services we don't have and most likely will never have. There are no plans for an Inter-State highway. The sewer line that ends just over the Center Harbor/Moultonborough line will not be extended to the village. As for waterfront we have plenty of that but unfortunately Anthony not in the village.

Unlike you Anthony, I see lots of positive things about Moultonborough. We enjoy a low tax rate the reason so many are here. Not just retirees but young families that are lucky enough to have jobs in the immediate area and don't need highway access. It's the quiet beauty, low taxes, and affordable housing that attract so many.

We have good schools and a wonderful new Superintendent who is working hard to make Moultonborough the best SAU in the lakes region. We have an excellent police and fire department and a great library. We have tennis courts, basketball courts, sports fields, a track, boat ramps, beaches, and miles of beautiful hiking trails.

So you see Anthony, things aren't all that bad, Moultonborogh is a great place to live.

Anonymous said...

To Anon of 2:21 P.M.: I like the town just fine, and so does my family. We have owned property here for more than 30 years, and we could have chosen Meredith, Wolfeboro, or any other town. I support the schools, but want to see us do better in that regard. Money spent on education is a good thing, but maybe we are not getting enough value for our tax dollars; we need to give our new supt. a chance for improvement, and she needs the support of the SCHOOL BOARD...DO YOU HEAR ME, S.B. MEMBERS??!!! We need to forget about sidewalks, fancy rec. centers, and grandiose plans and stick to the basics, the things that made us want to move here! Wow! This wore me out!

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous at 7:26 PLEASE tell me you are not telling the School Board to blindly follow the new supt.? They should support her only if they think what she is asking for is in the best interest of our town, school and children.

Anonymous said...

I never advocate blindly following anyone! The supt. has some excellent ideas, IMO, and at one meeting that comes to mind, not with this SB, they sat in silence when they should have spoken up in her support.

Still Napping.. said...

Not sure where you get your faith in the School Board...Common Core intends to bypass them, and impose one Curriculum for all children. We had a difficult time finding anyone on the School Board conversant in C C. O well, the Feds have a program for our children.....