Sunday, August 3, 2014

Meetings

Busy week in town.
The Master Plan Implementation Committee will reconvene Monday at 5:30 at Town Hall , followed by the Conservation Committee at 7pm.
The ABC will meet in a workshop Tuesday at 5pm at Town Hall.  A "Septic Sense" seminar will be held at 6pm-8pm at the Balmoral Improvement Association’s  Clubhouse, Paradise Drive. (The forum is free and open to the public, but pre-registration is requested. Please contact Pat Tarpey, Executive Director of the WWA at 603-581-6632 or mail@winnipesaukee.org to register or for more information.

The BoS will meet twice this week. On Wednesday from 3-7pm we will meet at the Loon Center in a "retreat" to set goals and objectives. The session will be facilitated and the public is invited to attend and observe. On Thursday at 7pm we have a regular business meeting.

The Zoning Board meets at 7:30 Wednesday Town Hall  and last but not least, the CIPC will meet Thursday at 10am also at Town Hall.

17 comments:

For a Town Diet said...

Too many meetings with too many committees, etc., for any voter to comprehend.

The government of Moultonborough needs to be slimmed down. It has too many committees, panels, etc.

Other than a BoS and statutory required Boards, we need to slim down. If members of the BoS wants to delegate functions, perhaps we need new members.

We need one more committee with a single purpose and objective of reorganizing the government to eliminate all of these unneeded committees that only increase Town spending and taxes!!

Committees; not employees said...

There is another view about the value of committees. Each is made up of citizens that, in most cases, volunteer their time. The result is dozens of unpaid workers, helping to keep our tax rate low. Those that volunteer get to run the town with BOS oversight, because there sure aren't many citizens coming to the meetings. Apathy rules.

They Did NOT Listen. said...

You hit the nail right on the head. The T A is trying to throw it all against the wall, with hopes that bits and pieces slip thru.. The B O S is largely responsible for this, if they kept a tight rein on him, they would not be so frazzled now. The new BOS is trying to get back on top of it, but they will have to work overtime to do it. This has been going on too long, manipulation of issue after issue, instead of solutions being offered by a practicalT A.
We are all paying a high price for the BOS taking the easy way out, and leaving the current T A in the slot.

Apathy Is Expensive. said...

Committees....we are choking on one now, due to apathy..when the five members of the " Blue Ribbon Committee " were selected, we knew three were sports focused. The results were not debunked and laid to rest at the time, as we could not forsee a paid town employee using a questionable committee report as justification to spend five million.
We did a better job on the charette report, even asked if citizens believed it in a Master Plan Survey. It had 10 % support. Voters are slowly recognizing that we are being led down the garden path, and we have to give them less to use against us..

Concerned Citizen Who Wants to Remain Informed said...

I read the comments on this Blog item and do have concerns about committees that are essentially ad-hoc that usurp the authority of our elected representatives. We do not elect our BoS by district, but “at large” and many of our BoS members once elected seem to forget that they are representatives of the voters, not just those who voted for them, but all of them. One of the unfortunate consequences of re-electing incumbents too frequently is that those representatives forget that protecting a minority viewpoint is as important as advocating for the majority and they display an arrogance that is troubling. Finally, not every majority view is the best course for the Town.

NH law authorizes Town Boards that if the voters want a zoning ordinance allows for Planning and Zoning Boards, which can either be elected or appointed by the BoS. Other committees/commissions such as Conservation, Heritage, etc. do have a statutory basis.

While the BoS has the authority to appoint committees and delegate functions, the process is less than transparent. The same is true of alternates to the Planning and Zoning boards. There are no standards required; there is no review; there is often an absence of notices and minutes of meetings and an informal decision making process that becomes institutionalized.

I would much prefer the elimination of committees such as the Blue Ribbon, which has a negative connotation of class warfare that purports to recommend “what is best for all of us”. I also object to an unelected budget committee and capital improvement committee that often attempts to “recommend” solutions that the voters have not requested,

On the Town web site are some 17 + committees, excluding some statutorily required and elected entities such as the Trust Fund, Library Trustees and Supervisor of the Checklist that are inexplicably listed as committees.

I do question the need for the plethora of committees for a small town such as Moultonborough and would propose a consultant to review the Town’s structure to rationalize governance and recommend a more responsive and transparent organization that the citizens could keep track of. The retention of a Mckinsey consulting type organization to review our governmental/committee structure would be a positive step to make our government more efficient, transparent and responsive. Such an investment might reap substantial dividends.

Concerned said...

I read the comments on this Blog item and do have concerns about committees that are essentially ad-hoc that usurp the authority of our elected representatives. We do not elect our BoS by district, but “at large” and many of our BoS members once elected seem to forget that they are representatives of the voters, not just those who voted for them, but all of them. One of the unfortunate consequences of re-electing incumbents too frequently is that those representatives forget that protecting a minority viewpoint is as important as advocating for the majority and they display an arrogance that is troubling. Finally, not every majority view is the best course for the Town.

NH law authorizes Town Boards that if the voters want a zoning ordinance allows for Planning and Zoning Boards, which can either be elected or appointed by the BoS. Other committees/commissions such as Conservation, Heritage, etc. do have a statutory basis.

While the BoS has the authority to appoint committees and delegate functions, the process is less than transparent. The same is true of alternates to the Planning and Zoning boards. There are no standards required; there is no review; there is often an absence of notices and minutes of meetings and an informal decision making process that becomes institutionalized.

I would much prefer the elimination of committees such as the Blue Ribbon, which has a negative connotation of class warfare that purports to recommend “what is best for all of us”. I also object to an unelected budget committee and capital improvement committee that often attempts to “recommend” solutions that the voters have not requested,

On the Town web site are some 17 + committees, excluding some statutorily required and elected entities such as the Trust Fund, Library Trustees and Supervisor of the Checklist that are inexplicably listed as committees.

I do question the need for the plethora of committees for a small town such as Moultonborough and would propose a consultant to review the Town’s structure to rationalize governance and recommend a more responsive and transparent organization that the citizens could keep track of. The retention of a Mckinsey consulting type organization to review our governmental/committee structure would be a positive step to make our government more efficient, transparent and responsive. Such an investment might reap substantial dividends.

T A Issues said...

Oh, God...another study. You will wear our T A out...but, he will have some UNH big government students on the committee by the end of the week, and, as we post, he has started the final report of the committee.
The only protection we currently have is attending Thurs Eve B O S meetings to present your well written term paper. Don't expect much relief, they are trying to be politically correct...no one says B S any more.

The More Eyes the Better said...

Personally I prefer having citizen committees and more "eyes" as opposed to more government running the show.

Washington is a mess. More government is not the answer. We don't need more "consulting" organizations we need more citizens to get off their collective butts and get involved in their local government.

Most Boards/committees have a Selectman representative on them who report back to the full Select Board.

Committees that look at expenditures and budgets such as the CIPC and ABC are advisory only. Ultumately it's the Selectmen that make recommendations to the legislative body at town meeting and the few that show up get to decide.

Remember, bad things happen when good people do nothing. It's your town get involved.

Anonymous said...

The ABC is advisory, the CIPC is statutory. Both are invaluable, in my opinion, and both have representatives from the BOS and PB. We need their collective eyes in running the town.

Joe Cormier/jcormier2@myfairpoint.net said...

Just read some of these comments ... and they top off a bad day, I'm having. I'm going to have a chat with Sam Adams!

For the record, committees EXECUTE "squat" (as in slang)! They are advisory.

The real issue is what does BoS do with the recommendations. I don't want BoS, personally, working every issue ... nor Carter. They may be knowledgeable individuals, but ... (one "t").

God, in her wisdom, did not make them omniscient!

Let them get perspectives from others. Then, shoot holes through them (recommendations, not the people), or approve, or modify.

Not addressing statutorily independent boards.

The BoS are there because our form of government is a Republic, not a Democracy!

Ever hear of "throw the bums out"?
Which bums would you like to VOTE in?

Legally, MoBo has a governing body of 5 people ... BoS. Period!

The governing body is whomever shows up at Town meeting (or votes via SB2), is a MoBo registered voter, and votes. Period!

I personally don;t have a problem with "It'll be decided at town meeting". That's not BoS indecisiveness ... that's let the town decide! What's wrong with that?

Want a decision sooner? Get 50 registered voters and petition a "special town meeting"; see RSA 39:3.

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/III/39/39-3.htm

Other than that, "pissing-in-the-wind" is a form of venting, not legislating. Period!

That, and two bucks, will get you a coffee at Dunkies.

Joe Cormier/jcormier2@myfairpoint.net said...

OOOPs ... like I said, bad day!

"The governing body is whomever shows up at Town meeting (or votes via SB2), is a MoBo registered voter, and votes. Period!"

That should read "legislative body", not governing body. We're the legislative body at town meeting. The BoS are the governing body, but you already knew that!

The legislative body, in most cases, trumps governing body, except on those issues stipulated under statute.

Eric Taussig said...

I tend to agree with Concerned Citizen, the proliferation of committees is out of control and deciphering their role vis-a-vis the BoS gets more difficult all the time.

Putting aside the statutory committees and boards intermixed on the Town website (for no rational reason), I would suggest limiting committees to very specific purposes and to have many of them sunset. It would seem that committees such as hazard mitigation and joint loss should sunset or be merged into some sort of administrative structure that reports to the TA, rather than the BoS. Others such as community garden milfoil and pathway should be reviewed annually for their continued need. Committees relating to land use such as Master Plan, Village Vision, etc., should be consolidated.

I agree that a review of the Town's administration with the relationship between the TA, the BoS and various committees should be examined by a Mckinsey type outfit to create the most efficient and transparent government we can get. An investment in such a totally objective and independent corporate-type restructuring study with recommendations that hopefully could be voted on by the electorate would likely pay dividends that would more than justify the expense.

Anonymous said...


If the legislative body trumps the governing body why can't the legislative body terminate Mr. Terenzini's employment?

Anonymous said...

It can, but won't!!!

Anonymous said...

"it can't but it won't" what's that suppose to mean? A warrant article at town meeting? Can you elaborate?

Joe Cormier/jcormier2@myfairpoint.net said...

Can you elaborate?

"it can't but it won't" may have been referring to the governing body, not the legislative body; that is, the Selectmen (governing body) hire/fire the TA. TA employment is subject to a contract.

Also,the BoS is chartered with managing the "Prudential Affairs"(legal sense)of the Town. The NH Supreme Court has ruled that the "Prudential Affairs" doctrine is subordinate to town meeting directive (legislative body), however.

If, "it can't but it won't", actually meant the legislative body (voters at town meting), then there are ways that the legislative body can effect employment or non-employment of town employees (not town officials). TA is a town employee, not a town official (legality).

Anonymous said...

While I agree that elected officials should represent the positions of both the minority and majority, I am enough of a realist to know that is not the case, on any level. The reality is that if you want your position / program / opinion represented you need to either vote / elect someone who shares that position, or gather support for a candidate who does.
We have seen that in action with the evolution of the BoS, new members have been elected based on displeasure with the positions of former members.