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Wednesday, October 15, 2014

Moultonboro Planning Board October 8th, 2014

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think that we all agree that water quality in our lakes is paramount, from the environmentalists right down to the businesses in Town that depend on tourism for their livelihoods.

Listen to the meeting for various perspectives brought forth by the owners of rental properties on the lake. They come to the meeting with a heavy hand, as well as, being somewhat desperate in their claims (noting disbelief that the PB discussed this topic without personally inviting them to craft the ordinance in advance!). Also, these folks were very quick to absolve themselves (i.e., renters and their sewage) and transfer blame to other land owners who rent privately.

In my opinion, the septage rules and regulations should be the same for all landowners, whether their properties are private, private rentals, rentals, etc.

Realistically, the DES does not have the staff/time/money to enforce problems in M'boro. If the lake is the number one priority, we need ordinances with teeth that can be enforced by our health officer. This means having a health officer on board that is qualified, i.e., someone who is qualified (this would be at a higher level than the "M'boro school of knowledge".) I am not sure that we have that in place now.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like our real estate rental agents must have been asleep at the switch. Good to see their ox gored a little. Their lobby drives any proposal that wil make it easier for them to rent or sell this town, cost to us no object.

Anonymous said...

I recall a few years ago, a whole lot of real-estate rental agents going over the top with the Planning Board having the Planning Board amend the ordinance to allow rental signs, when someone not too popular with that Board, discovered that they were illegal. When that question went before the Town's voters, the voters definitively defeated that proposal. Despite that defeat, the brokers still post illegal signs with impunity as there is little if any enforcement.

I'm sure the real estate interests that rent lake houses will be doing everything in their power to defeat any amendments that would limit occupancy of lake houses. I've watched too many people occupying these houses. There should be some regulation to limit septic failure and to insure safety for not only our residents but also the renters and users of lake water for drinking, etc. Having 12 plus renters in 2 and 3 bedroom cottages with 1 or at most 2 bathrooms is insane

As I listened to the real estate brokers, I could hear their concern for profits that drown out any sensible regulation relating to over-occupancy by renters as they just don't care.

It seems this is a perfect opportunity to put some reasonable regulation on this abuse that threatens all residents and renters.

Something Smells said...

The Conservation Commission and Land Use Office should be leading the charge for stiricter septic regulations.

The town spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on milfoil control yet turns a blind eye on the real culprit, degrading our waterways, faulty cesspools and septic systems. Why is that?

Wrong Priorities said...

I totally agree with Something Smells. It is a waste to spend money on milfoil control when you allow leaking and non-working septics to drop pollutants such as phosphates and everything from nitrates to mercury.

Down Wind said...

We may have had s slight exaggeration from Mr Borrin, one of our local rental realators, when he states he is aware of many cottages around the lake using 55 gallon drums for septic systems. Were I the health inspector, I would invite him in for a little more info on that topic.
Marine mooring fields in Florida ask boaters to have a reciept for their last pump out. Over a period of time, homeowners here could also retain those receipts, and be asked to furnish them bi-annually, along with their property tax payment.

Joe Cormier/jcormier2@myfairpoint.net said...


Septic affecting environment ...
Rentals ....
Homes ... not houses...
Houses ... not homes ...
Constitutional privacy issues ...
Unlawful govt. intrusion ...

Ad infinitum!

Regulations are only affective if they can be enforced!

Why should there be a difference from a rental property than a home for environmental impact?

Business owners are concerned with business ... as they should be!

How do you enforce a two bedroom septic regulation, whatever it proposes to be, when six relatives show up for the night?

How do you control a two bedroom rental with ten "young adults" are sleeping overnight, in the living room, in sleeping bags, because the two bedrooms are full of drunken adults?

Respect, consideration ... sure ... right up there with fireworks!

Or, how about six cars in a private driveway, paved or not,with 12 people renting a two bedroom, and drunk most of the time. Never mentioned the Mass. plates (I was born and grew up in Lowell, MA).

Living-it-up ... up-the-Saukee!

Want to hire an attorney for this?!

I can just see Chief Wetherbee now ... !!!!!!!!

If the issue is septic, than "attack" it as a septic issue, and the state may have statutes that are enforceable. If there is a septic violation, define it, and execute.

Septic design, septic build, septic license, license to pump ...

Something stinks, make a call ...


http://www.dhhs.nh.gov/dphs/holu/documents/hom-septic.pdf