Saturday, February 13, 2016

Selectmen to Host Community Center Informational Sessions in March. Candidates Night Set for Sunday March 6th.

As the run up to Town meeting continues, the BoS last Thursday decided to host two public informational sessions designed to provide information on the proposed Community Center concept. They will be very informal and light refreshments will be available for both.
We will have poster boards and handouts and will answer questions pertaining to the function and conceptual design of the proposal. These are not intended to be  " pro or con"  meetings, just an attempt to disseminate as much information about the form and function as we can before Town meeting.
The first session is scheduled for Thursday March 3rd from 4:30 pm to 6:30 pm. The second session is scheduled for Saturday March 5th from 10:00 am to 12 noon. Both sessions will be at Town Hall. The public is encouraged to come by at any time during those hours.
Candidate's night is scheduled for Sunday night March 6th at 6:30 pm at the Lions Club. It is expected that there will be ample opportunity to not only hear from some of the candidates, but also to discuss warrant articles.

13 comments:

For Fair Discussion said...

Wonderful, but I really wonder if the BoS has ever heard about "equal time" an old institutional requirement of the FCC when there were only three network broadcasters and candidates and controversial issues received equal time on the media to argue their positions.

If the BoS wants to go on an advertising campaign for a warrant article that is their prerogative, but in my view, their advocacy should be on their dime, not the taxpayers. The use of public facilities and availability of personnel to discuss the alleged attributes of the Community Center concepts are costs that are being borne by the taxpayers, without the ability of those that may have different ideas being allowed to articulate their views.

Moultonboro Blogger said...

For Fair- your comments with due respect are- unfair. You have made numerous incorrect assumptions. There are many people who truly want accurate information on what is being proposed and the BoS are obligated to provide it. This is not an equal time issue as we are not taking a position pro or con at these sessions.The BoS are presenting this as purely informational without any spin either for or against , so that participants can gather information on cost, function and design and make their own informed decision for Town meeting. Your are also incorrect to state that taxpayers are not allowed to articulate their views. We have had numerous presentations, public hearings and citizen input at all BoS business meetings, candidates night and finally, Town meeting where the final debate will occur.

Anonymous said...

"For Fair Discussion" obviously does not like the idea of a Community Center. That has nothing to do with 'equal time'. These sessions are as the blogger said 'for information'. Not to voice an opinion up or down. Ask questions, look at the designs etc.

Guess who ... said...

Town website ... agendas:

"Thursday, February 25, 2016

The Moultonborough Board of Selectmen will hold a Second Public Bond Hearing to discuss and consider incurring indebtedness for the following purpose: The design, engineering, construction and other costs associated with the proposed construction of a new community center at 7:30 p.m.

Moultonborough Town Hall
6 Holland Street
Moultonborough, NH 03254
If you are unable to attend this hearing, but wish to submit comments or questions, please do so prior to the close of business on the day of the hearing, to Walter Johnson, Town Administrator"


The blog:

" ... the BoS last Thursday decided to host two public informational sessions designed to provide information on the proposed Community Center concept. They will be very informal and light refreshments will be available for both." (arsenic)

" ... will answer questions pertaining to the function and conceptual design of the proposal. These are not intended to be " pro or con" meetings, just an attempt to disseminate as much information about the form and function as we can before Town meeting.
The first session is scheduled for Thursday March 3rd from 4:30 pm to 6:30 pm. The second session is scheduled for Saturday March 5th from 10:00 am to 12 noon. Both sessions will be at Town Hall. The public is encouraged to come by at any time during those hours."

Info meetings ... let's start with getting the time and dates set ... Maybe it's me?

Maybe we should just "cut the crap" about being for, or not being for, the Community Center.

Maybe we can fight about why does a Community Center have to have a gym, with the Rec. Center "expanding" into it, and then "scheduling" everything for the little darlings! Maybe it's the gym that's needed, not the Center. Maybe it's both.

We can then fight about what to do with another empty building.

Why aren't we fighting about ... who says the BoS is going to decide the plan. Why isn't the town deciding the plan, presuming the town approves anything will be built via the bond? "Prudential Affairs Doctrine" my ass!

How many of you have, or will have, written, legally binding amendments to Article two (2) of the 2016 warrant to change the warrant to what you, and whomever you can convince at the town meeting, to build. Presumption being, if article two (2) passes as written?

Cold now ... it's probably going to warm up!



Moultonboro Blogger said...

The dates are set. There is the bond hearing on 2/25 then info sessions on 3/3 and 3/5. Two very different purposes. As we have stated repeatedly, the givens are the location and the functions that the " box" was designed to contain. There have been years of committees, reports, commissions ad nauseum. The BoS have rightly taken a leadership role in getting this issue resolved. How that final design will be set will be a conversation the BoS will have if Article 2 passes on March 12th.

Eric Taussig said...

With all due respect to the Blogger and anonymous 2/14 8:44 PM, I do believe that residents/voters still have a First Amendment right to voice their concerns and possible opposition to the proposed Community Center. I also am of the view that there should be a robust discussion about a major structure to be built in the middle of the Village Zone that will cost some $6,500,000.

Even the BoS is not unanimous in support for this proposal. While I suspect that there will be amendments offered at the Town Meeting, I am concerned that many of them will not be constructive but rather designed to make the project less palatable so that it will fail, which may be a legitimate approach, if the voters believe they have not had sufficient input in the project.

When the Supreme Court ruled in Citizens United that federal campaign finance limitations limited free speech, the Court made a point that all of us may not necessarily agree with, but in Moultonborough there are few avenues for citizens to state their views, with or without a PAC. The local newspapers are not MOBO-centric, the Blog represents the one media outlet that is available with a large local readership. In that regard I do hope that the Blog will allow for a full and fair discussion of the pros and cons of the Community Center proposal.

I suspect that For Fair Discussion is frustrated in his or her inability to articulate what is likely a legitimate view that I for one would be interested in reading about.

Stirring the pot ... said...

Motion to amend (Article 2)

To see if the town will vote, upon the 2016 legislative body approval of the Article 2 bond, and the Article 2 building of a Community Center, to have the legislative body direct the governing body, to contract to build the Community Center, according to a plan incorporating resident input, derived from informational meetings, and the plan presented to the legislative body by the governing body, at the 2016 town meeting, and subject to floor amendment at the 2016 annual town meeting, and including all other points of Article 2.


To the BoS:

Make it good!



Amending the spoon for stirring the kettle .. said...


To see if the town will vote, upon the affirmative vote of Article 2, to have the legislative body direct the governing body, to hold meetings, ending June 30 2016, to finalize the building plan of the Community Center, as established by attendees at those meetings. A majority consensus, of voting on proposals for the Community Center building, at those meetings, documented by the governing body, will be the deciding factor of the plan, and to be contracted by the governing body to act as agents to expend funds, to build the Community Center.

Moultonboro Blogger said...

I don't really follow either of the above two proposed amendments and would not support the wording for a variety if reasons. Since we are not yet at town meeting lets wait until then to see how the entire legislative body feels and if any amendments are proposed and more importantly, if any pass. Keep in mind that amendments only require a simple majority.

Moultonboro Blogger said...

Just sayin'- maybe put your name to the comments about me so that I can properly respond to your misguided accusations.

Joseph Cormier said...

There are conversations ALREADY transpiring!

Getting some of the possibilities out there now, prevents surprises and future accusations of " I didn't understand before!" Still time to smooth ruffled feathers with language, that could show up.

The Fen. 25th meeting for the bond article will elucidate on what? Change 6.5 million to 1 million, to try to defeat the Center? Talk about amendments NOW, and cut the time that we'll be at the town meeting. There's time to vette some of the sore spots! If they show-up as amendments ... so be it.

The next two "info" meetings will do what, that WILL be part of the build plan?
The BoS take under advisement ... and not be part of the build plan, because the BoS don't agree?

Legislative body amendments don't care what the BoS think or feel! It DIRECTS the BoS on what to do ... or suffer the legal consequences, and the Courts will rule accordingly, no doubt. The BoS at town meeting can cast their votes, like the rest of us.

The amendments will not be moot, but dead, if Article 2 fails. Why not think ahead if it passes, even if a select few have thought ahead!





Anonymous said...

Been to town meeting for decades. That is when the legislative body has the power. Small groups wanting amendments before the gathering on March 12th is not how it is done. That is why we continually reject SB2.

Joseph Cormier said...

Not sure of the point, February 15, 2016 at 4:41 PM.

I bought my property back in early 1970's, but have only attended the last two town meetings. I could have cared less about town politics, and still don't really, but have become aware. I figured, no matter which gang ran the town, they couldn't, and still can't, raise the tax rate without raising their own! That's my main concern.

You are very correct about the legislative body. The only day of the year we are a Democracy and not a Republic.

A single motion, by one person, can amend an article. If that amendment is voted yes by the majority (cold be one vote), then that one motion sets the town ruling. Kind-a-like a "Town law" that the BoS must follow.

People can scheme, connive, plan ahead of the town meeting, but nothing counts, till the vote at town meeting.

How it has been done in MoBo .. only highlights not trying something different.

The only logical reason I'm aware of, for rejecting SB-2 is keeping the same power base, and not letting others in, on citizen input for governance.

The reasons presented for rejecting SB-2 have been bogus, and only firm-up the power base.

This town isn't ready for another debate(real one) on SB-2. The Center is on the table this year.

What a country!